1) Google did not knowingly downrank other search engines. It happened due to us preferring Google
2) Google has every right to downrank other search engines both because its GOOGLE'S SITE and because if other search engines really need Google/another search engine for their promotion, then they've already failed.
Personally I'd prefer it if you forgot all the bells and whistles and just made the algorithm better. The simplicity of the list was beautiful. The instant, preview blahblahblah gizmos just get in the way.
I'm Irish (within the EU) so the results of these commissions impact me, in the past the commission has been very good at stopping anti competitive behaviour ( take IE being distributed with windows) however sometimes enough is enough.
When I search for something I don't want to be presented with a list of search engine listings as the results, after all if they force the point we would end up with result pages only leading to each other. In my opinion other search engines should be excluded from all results bar those with the term search engine.
After all it's Googles ability to weed out bad results that made it the leader in the industry it would be ridiculus and wrong to force it any other way.
I understand what Google is doing, but I also understand it is easy to run any kind of diagnostic/test to show that your "users" prefer your search result format, so cloaking it as providing a better user value is quite illusory.
How about levelling the playing field a wee bit: any internal Google product page that has a noindex tag should not be shown in Google's own main search results.
I can't see why the Commission should care about the views of an American company, why players as Google or Microsoft are relevant who only reside in Europe to benefit from Irish tax dumping.
Like Techni said, other search engines are down ranked because people who are searching on google PREFER Google. I don't think Google should have to be sued for how they portray competing products even if they do purposely downrank them (which I highly doubt they do) You don't see any references to Android on Microsoft's windows phone website. Google isn't successful because its anti-competitive and uses dirty tactics. Google is successful because its products are better than the competition.
Your algorithm is getting greedy. Or is it the "algorithm"?
"Answering users' queries accurately and quickly is our number one goal."
Ha, Anyone whom has used adwords and delt with a low quality score (even though your website accommodates all of adwords recommendations). Knows better than that.
Not to mention that Google gives your keyword a fake quality score that instantly goes down, the moment you give your payment information.
Your algorithm is getting greedy. Or is it the "algorithm"?
I am sure EU has a valid case. I noticed several times ShaadiKaroge.com was listed on 4th place on page 1 and suddenly next day it was on page 3 or 4 for the keyword "Shaadi" if you search from USA while Shaadi.com occupies first 3 places. Shaadi.com is funded by Sequoia Capital who also funded Google.com, I am sure Google manipulates results and I am also planning to file complaint with DOJ as I may have screen shots.
personally i would prefer google is the best amongst all google is for people what i like the most about google is google lets every 1 use their campaigns and tools like adsense, translator, google base and more are coming if any other search engine would be smart like google we would have used those but google = best in every aspect accurate, simple and effective great work guys keep up the good work
Dear commission, Don't like how Google works? - Stop using it and go waste tax money on some other dang investigation.
Seriously, i mean - what is even the ppint of investigating this. Even if they downgrade others, theoretically speaking the eu commission wouldn't be able to do a thing about it since bing and yahoo might be doing it themselves?
Don't like googles way of work? Fine, don't use it, but don't go wasting my tax money on this nonsense investigation.
I believe both:
ReplyDelete1) Google did not knowingly downrank other search engines. It happened due to us preferring Google
2) Google has every right to downrank other search engines both because its GOOGLE'S SITE and because if other search engines really need Google/another search engine for their promotion, then they've already failed.
+1 to point 2 @Techni
ReplyDeletePersonally I'd prefer it if you forgot all the bells and whistles and just made the algorithm better. The simplicity of the list was beautiful. The instant, preview blahblahblah gizmos just get in the way.
ReplyDeleteI'm Irish (within the EU) so the results of these commissions impact me, in the past the commission has been very good at stopping anti competitive behaviour ( take IE being distributed with windows) however sometimes enough is enough.
ReplyDeleteWhen I search for something I don't want to be presented with a list of search engine listings as the results, after all if they force the point we would end up with result pages only leading to each other. In my opinion other search engines should be excluded from all results bar those with the term search engine.
After all it's Googles ability to weed out bad results that made it the leader in the industry it would be ridiculus and wrong to force it any other way.
I understand what Google is doing, but I also understand it is easy to run any kind of diagnostic/test to show that your "users" prefer your search result format, so cloaking it as providing a better user value is quite illusory.
ReplyDeleteHow about levelling the playing field a wee bit: any internal Google product page that has a noindex tag should not be shown in Google's own main search results.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.google.com/robots.txt
I can't see why the Commission should care about the views of an American company, why players as Google or Microsoft are relevant who only reside in Europe to benefit from Irish tax dumping.
ReplyDeleteLike Techni said, other search engines are down ranked because people who are searching on google PREFER Google.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Google should have to be sued for how they portray competing products even if they do purposely downrank them (which I highly doubt they do) You don't see any references to Android on Microsoft's windows phone website.
Google isn't successful because its anti-competitive and uses dirty tactics. Google is successful because its products are better than the competition.
Your algorithm is getting greedy. Or is it the "algorithm"?
ReplyDelete"Answering users' queries accurately and quickly is our number one goal."
Ha, Anyone whom has used adwords and delt with a low quality score (even though your website accommodates all of adwords recommendations). Knows better than that.
Not to mention that Google gives your keyword a fake quality score that instantly goes down, the moment you give your payment information.
Your algorithm is getting greedy. Or is it the "algorithm"?
I am sure EU has a valid case. I noticed several times ShaadiKaroge.com was listed on 4th place on page 1 and suddenly next day it was on page 3 or 4 for the keyword "Shaadi" if you search from USA while Shaadi.com occupies first 3 places. Shaadi.com is funded by Sequoia Capital who also funded Google.com, I am sure Google manipulates results and I am also planning to file complaint with DOJ as I may have screen shots.
ReplyDeletepersonally i would prefer google is the best amongst all google is for people what i like the most about google is google lets every 1 use their campaigns and tools like adsense, translator, google base and more are coming if any other search engine would be smart like google we would have used those but google = best in every aspect accurate, simple and effective great work guys keep up the good work
ReplyDeleteDear commission,
ReplyDeleteDon't like how Google works? - Stop using it and go waste tax money on some other dang investigation.
Seriously, i mean - what is even the ppint of investigating this. Even if they downgrade others, theoretically speaking the eu commission wouldn't be able to do a thing about it since bing and yahoo might be doing it themselves?
Don't like googles way of work? Fine, don't use it, but don't go wasting my tax money on this nonsense investigation.