We need business help to foster the best and brightest here as well. I can't help but wonder the progress that could be mad ein our education system with the help of a progressive company like Google.
Google fits the typical profile for a H-1B exploiter.
In the past.. (pre H-1B fiasco)..
1.) Employers would seek out employees from different regions of the country. This search would extend to the point of opening up branch offices in other city and states in order to find and maintain talent in those remote locations.
Note: Not everyone can justify the expense of moving to a new city and job form a 80 to 150K/yr salary. This especially rings true for the more successful people, who would take huge tax/asset hits(>200K$) in such a dislocation. (I.E. Several years of after tax earnings just to break even from such a dislocation. )
2.) Contract specialized consultants for specific rare fields that require exceptional talent needed to deliver reliable products. (Device drivers, OS guru's, etc.)
P.S. Google you really don't need these specialized people on a full time basis anyway.
3.) Hire and educate lessor qualified employees and/or BS/MS/PHD's from non-computer fields. (This used to be the mainstay employment mechanism for science types in our tech based society.)
Note: Most scientifically trained people are more than capable of performing a computer related programming task , if given a chance. The H-1B program has eliminated much of this activity and greatly increased probability of a negative ROI from earning a science degree.
4.) Provide telecommuting opportunities. (related to item #1)
5.) Pay a competitive wage rates, especially after a companies stock has peaked or trades in limited range.
6.) Demands unreasonable extended work hours on a consistent basis.
From what I've read previously. Google fails on all counts listed above.
Very interesting, no wonder why Google is so big and successful, it is inspired and guided by a great mentality and open-minded creative people. Kudos to these two guys!
Obtaining H-1B status is becoming increasingly difficult though, foreign nationals do not only compete for jobs but for employers' willingness to do sponsorships as well.
While I think it is a shame that our top universities award large amounts of advanced technical degrees, only to see that expertise exported because of our visa policies, I think the more important issue is the one which BPINK has raised. What is Google’s position on our nation’s education system, and why comparatively speaking, our students suck at science and math?
The argument about bringing talent from other parts of the country and relocating it to CA is not valid simply because Google does have small offices throughout the United States and it is up to the recent graduates to be open minded in their work search. Virtual work teams do exist! Unfortunately foreign nationals are at a disadvantage in this regard – US cost center can not pay foreign national unless there is work authorization in place. Maria Casey, CPA
We need business help to foster the best and brightest here as well. I can't help but wonder the progress that could be mad ein our education system with the help of a progressive company like Google.
ReplyDeleteGoogle fits the typical profile for a H-1B exploiter.
ReplyDeleteIn the past.. (pre H-1B fiasco)..
1.) Employers would seek out employees from different regions of the country. This search would extend to the point of opening up
branch offices in other city and states in order to find and maintain talent in those remote locations.
Note: Not everyone can justify the expense of moving to a new city and job form a 80 to 150K/yr salary. This especially rings true for the more successful people, who would take huge tax/asset hits(>200K$) in such a dislocation. (I.E. Several years of after tax earnings just to break even from such a dislocation. )
2.) Contract specialized consultants for specific rare fields that require exceptional talent needed to deliver reliable products. (Device drivers, OS guru's, etc.)
P.S. Google you really don't need these specialized people on a full time basis anyway.
3.) Hire and educate lessor qualified employees and/or BS/MS/PHD's from non-computer fields. (This used to be the mainstay employment mechanism for science types in our tech based society.)
Note: Most scientifically trained people are more than capable of
performing a computer related programming task , if given a chance. The H-1B program has eliminated much of this activity and greatly increased probability of a negative ROI from earning a science degree.
4.) Provide telecommuting opportunities. (related to item #1)
5.) Pay a competitive wage rates, especially after a companies stock
has peaked or trades in limited range.
6.) Demands unreasonable extended work hours on a consistent basis.
From what I've read previously.
Google fails on all counts listed above.
Very interesting, no wonder why Google is so big and successful, it is inspired and guided by a great mentality and open-minded creative people. Kudos to these two guys!
ReplyDeleteObtaining H-1B status is becoming increasingly difficult though, foreign nationals do not only compete for jobs but for employers' willingness to do sponsorships as well.
While I think it is a shame that our top universities award large amounts of advanced technical degrees, only to see that expertise exported because of our visa policies, I think the more important issue is the one which BPINK has raised. What is Google’s position on our nation’s education system, and why comparatively speaking, our students suck at science and math?
ReplyDeleteThe argument about bringing talent from other parts of the country and relocating it to CA is not valid simply because Google does have small offices throughout the United States and it is up to the recent graduates to be open minded in their work search. Virtual work teams do exist! Unfortunately foreign nationals are at a disadvantage in this regard – US cost center can not pay foreign national unless there is work authorization in place. Maria Casey, CPA
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